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Post by uriel on Nov 25, 2005 15:57:53 GMT -5
Atlantis, a place that Plato described as a Utopia, has been one of history’s most intriguing mysteries. Did the island of Atlantis really disappear into the Atlantic Ocean without a trace? Researchers have been trying to figure out what happened to Atlantis or even if it really existed for years. According to legend the rich island of Atlantis somehow suddenly disappeared without warning. The main theory as to why the island disappeared is the belief that if the island truly existed volcanic activity may have caused earthquakes that in turn caused the island to sink into the ocean... or may be there is something else behind it...may be they had some power given to them and since they didn't have the knowledge how to use it, that power destroyed them... Please, if you wish to research on that topic, feel free to. Every information would be helpful.
You may want to check out this website. It also may give us some clue about another mystery- Bermuda Triangle.
www.galactic-server.net/kjole/nordic/atlantis.html
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Post by Kain on Nov 25, 2005 16:13:02 GMT -5
I'll let you read through my copy of the Book of Raziel Uriel. Since that book contains the supposed secrets of life and of the universe it seems possible that someone in Atlantis got a hold of it and didn't quite know how to use it or respect it and the book ultimetly led to Atalantis' downfall.
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Post by Kain on Nov 25, 2005 16:15:18 GMT -5
Very interesting site. I never really knew about any of that.
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Post by Arkhon Arkhozh on Nov 26, 2005 15:08:55 GMT -5
www.atlan.org/faq/I have known about this site for over a year. Its from a very gifted man called Professor Arysio Santos who made very detailed theories on Lemuria and Atlantis and thinks the true location was in Indonesia. Im not sure if I completely agree with all that he says but he sure has reseached and worked hard. Here is a link to his message board. forum.atlan.org/viewtopic.php?t=34I linked you to a particularly interesting topic rather then the main forum thread. Where someone has brought up the topic of high technology and nucear warfare. Here is how the profesors son Benardo Santos responded to the post. "Hi, Platonic and all, I think the possibility of a nuclear war leading to the destruction of Atlantis is reasonable. The quoting of the Mahabharata you mentioned clearly shows evidence of it. The Mahabharata and its related Indian sacred books are probably the place where you can find most of Atlantis' history, obviously disguised in myths. I personally believe such war really happened and that the atlanteans had nuclear technology. We can't forget the Atlanteans had over 50000 undisturbed years to evolve, when we had only a little more than 10000, and we have nuclear weapons. Therefore, atlantean technology could be really amazing. As you have pointed, I think Prof. Santos will not want to mention it on a first book released in English, since it could be quoted as too incredible. The Atlantis' idea itself is doomed by science, as we are taught and "brainwashed" in our childhood that it is a lunatic or crazy thing. So he will try to address it first. He has written about nuclear devices in Atlantis, as speculation, in a myth analysis book released in 1996. He will not mention the nuclear possibility again until he can give substantial proofs to it. He already has some scientific evidence that is very compelling, though. I can't mention it since it is subject to scientific misappropriation. The nuclear war doesn't mean, however, that the volcanic explosion wasn't the cause of the Ice Age end. It certainly was, that is for sure. What I think Prof. Santos believes is that a nuclear device placed inside the volcano could have triggered its gigantic explosion. The volcano that exploded was in the region of the krakatoa, as written in the website's articles. The volcanic explosion could have happened by itself, though. You are once again right, Platonic; Prof. Santos told me asteroids carry no radiation and wouldn't harm a human with anything besides its impact and explosion. The Mahabharata speaks clearly of radiation effects. As you know, Prof. Santos has a PhD in Nuclear Physics in Washington University, Saint Louis. I do believe, however, that the lonar crater showed by you ( gisp.gi.alaska.edu/craterbase/lonar.htm ) was probably caused by a comet fragment or asteroid. I think the crater is also a little too old (52000 years). It could have been caused by nuclear tests, but it is a lot of speculation. I have read the most absurd things on internet forums, such as people linking the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs to the destruction of Atlantis, when humans didn't exist yet. So we have to be careful. Cheers,"
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Post by Arkhon Arkhozh on Nov 26, 2005 16:02:40 GMT -5
In case people dont feel like sifting through that topic, I will provide the other comment by Bernardo I want you to see.
Bernardo Santos.
"PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: Reply with quote I don't think that their advanced technology would necessarily be just like ours. Maybe they didn't had to build skyscrapers, if they had, for instance, a population growth control method that wouldn't require them to "verticalyze" and build tall buildings like overcrowded cities need to.
Talking about large buildings, we all saw that the world trade center couldn't resist a plane hit for more than a couple of hours. I don't think that a that a building, built the way they are today, could resist more than 1000 years of volcanic explosions, earthquakes, gigantic waves, etc. Just the salt water itself should be enough to make any structure collapse in a few centuries.
After 11,600 years I think it will be hard to find evidence of Atlantis down the ocean. Most evidence should be vastly destroyed, rusted and covered by layers of sand that could be meters thick. So a lot of research and investment should be required. When you look at ships and planes that sunk from the world war II, just some decades ago, you see they are almost unrecognizable. Give them 100 years and they will disintegrate.
If they had nuclear weapons I am sure they would also have electricity and much more. Nuclear technology, even today, remains unreachable to most countries. Anyway they could create I a nuclear bomb, it would require extensive knowledge and simple fields like electricity, that even a child can create (with homemade battery), should be explored way before that.
Here we are again in the field of speculation. It may be a little bit ahead of us but it is definitely fun.
They certainly had more than 50,000 years to evolve, since the last Ice Age lasted for more than 100,000 years. There was a cataclysm in the first half of this Ice Age which almost destroyed the whole human population at Indonesia (as Prof. Santos likes to call, the destruction of Lemuria). Then, at the same place, what we call Atlantis flourished and lasted for the rest of the Ice Age, until it sunk at the end of it.
Your Portuguese is correct by the way. Wink
Cheers,"
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Post by Kain on Nov 27, 2005 20:01:16 GMT -5
Quite a bit of information there Bahamut, but all very helpful nonetheless. good finds.
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