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Post by andy on Apr 8, 2006 5:21:12 GMT -5
Bluntly put I didn't log in for a lack of remembering my password. However that isn't important. What i've got to say is. I'm enraged by this and I hope and pray you will be as angry as I am. Please read this because it isn't one of my angry ants this is very serious.
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Post by andy on Apr 8, 2006 5:23:38 GMT -5
Although there's a lot of joking and goofing off on this board what i have to say now is no laughing matter. This is indeed a serious problem that needs to be adressed. I want to adress the horrors of dog fighting. I seen a special on cannel 11 a few days ago and it was very painful to watch but I felt it nessessary. By doing so I lost a part of myself I can't simply turn a blind eye and pretend it dosen't affect me or that it dosen't exist. So I ask all here if your part of other message boards or know others that care help me spread the word. We don't have to stand by and let this happen. We have the power to help stop it. Maybe not eliminate it altogether but if any dogs can be spared the effort is worth it. Now most of us in the world don't engage in such activities or even enjoy the idea. So we do have the power to stop not only this but other crimes. We need to stand united and just say no we won't tolerate this any more.
I want to make it clear that this special was very graphic. I got to see a dog fight in progress and the end results. So I've seen the kind of injuries that occure and how scarred and beaten the dogs look after they heal up. There's other graphic material I have also adressed at the end of this.
I don't remember the specifics on how dog fights work not like I really care anyway. What is important is what results in it. Dogs are bred purpously for this one function. They are trained from birth to be agressive. I seen how puppies are toyed with to look for prime canidates. The most agressive puppies are then isolated to begin thier training.
Now dog fights are bad because these dogs fight to kill and the fights go on until one of the dogs is unable to fight. This results in horrid injuries that include things like loosing eyes and ears. As horrific as this is it's not the worst of it. I've heard about what happens to the loosing dogs. They can be punished in a number of ways and the ways I've heard are physical beatings, being left behind to starve, dehydrate or bleed to death, and the worst of all punishments setting them on fire.
Another concern of all this is its teaching people that violence is ok. A vetenarian was speaking nad he said hevisited a class of 5th graders and all of them know what dog fights are and some have seen them. A child interveiwed said he seen the fights and they didn't bother him. He didn't even seem to care dogs were being hurt and killed. I also heard about a group of kids who stole and old ladys dog and when it wouldn't fight another dog they set it on fire. That sickens me on multiple levels and need to be stopped.
Now let's say you don't care about animals and your one of those arrogant loosers that things human life is all that counts. This kind of mentality can lead to violence against other people. There's also the issue of the kinds of people and activities that go hand and hand with dog fights. Generally money is put on the line and these peopel also tend to deal in drugs. So it's a number of illegal activities we can shut down at once if we stop dog fights,
Thankfully we live in a wonderful state where dog fights are not only illegal but its a felony. Sadly however the system isn't perfect. There aren't enough police officers trained to l.ook for signs of dog fighting although they do answer calls about dog fighting. The Chicago police have a special department for dog fighting too. Even sadder still is its the dogs that loose no matter what. If a person is arrested for dog fighting the dogs are locked up in a shelter until the trial. If the person is not convicted the person gets thier dog or dogs back. Now personally I think if your arrested for dog fighting your dog should be stripped from you regardless. Now in the event someone is convicted thier dog(s) are disposed of because since they were trained to fight thier too violent for anyone to handle. It's a bit vile to say disposed of but that's exactly what happened. The special ended with showing the poor animals after being put to sleep being put into plastic bags liek they were garbage.
I am deeply troubled by what I seen. It still haunts me anytime my mind isn;t occupied by other thoughts. Although this is bad and it did hurt to watch and I neve felt such a burning hatred before in my life good did come of it. Not only do I want to draw attention to such a vicious and vile act but it makes me love my dog all that much more. She's one dog that's got a safe gome. Now she isn't ideally a fighitng dog but dogs have been used as "bait" by trainers so thier dogs have something to rip apart.
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Post by Arkhon Arkhozh on Apr 8, 2006 15:55:42 GMT -5
That is really sick and terrible, I don't understand how people can do that. Ive posted your message on two message boards im a part of. Ive also posted it on the gamefaqs forums so three more boards are aware of it now.
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Post by Reno on Apr 9, 2006 2:29:29 GMT -5
I reposted it on another message board, and I'll send it around on myspace tomorrow.
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Post by Kain on Apr 10, 2006 10:00:09 GMT -5
That's terrible, I'll post it elsewhere as well.
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Post by black heart on Apr 12, 2006 23:53:34 GMT -5
...words cannot express the anger i feel when thinking of dogs being hurt.
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Post by Shintoku on May 1, 2006 21:14:10 GMT -5
this is just low and pathetic, that people accutally do this kid of crap, ive seen a video clip on myspace froma stranger who added me to there buddylist there, and watching the video accutally made me fill with anger, beyond petty arguments that i have with people, beyond the anger i feel eachday at work and beyond what i feel here at home at the current condition shits going on in, im definatly in on wanting to stop this.
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Post by fenris on May 2, 2006 4:08:29 GMT -5
Yet another reason for me to make fun of myspeace. Although that is a different matter entirely and is noting serious copared ot what we face here. Now I know it won't do much good but I certianlly will sleep better knowing I tried. So I urge everyone else here to write letters and/or email all our law makers. In the grand scheme of things this may be a little problem but nothing gets done by sitting and doing nothing either. There's two ways to stop this and one is to complain enough and spread the message so more people are aware. The other is to form a vigilantie group and hunt the filth that do this. Since both are unrealistic goals I'm taking the one more likel to not get me hurt and keep me out of trouble.
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Post by Shintoku on May 2, 2006 11:41:40 GMT -5
but i like the idea of a vifilantie group it will give me a reason to get off I disagree and learn more of martial arts than im already learning and will give me a reason to take out pent up stress on people since sex doesnt work for me cause im one of those people who well....couldnt get a girl if his life depended on it and thinks its too troublesome to attempt to try..lol
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Post by fenris on May 2, 2006 11:48:23 GMT -5
But violence is such nasty business. Besides I lik my body intact and god only knows what kind of people we would be dealing with. This goes beyond normal violence levels.
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Post by fenris on May 2, 2006 11:51:50 GMT -5
Ok enough with the sillly stuff. In all seriousness if a vigilantie group was formed we'd be bound to get into more trouble than the dog fighters. We all know the majority of the world regards human life more precious than other life. So I'll harass lawmakers until I'm blue in the face even if I don't vote for them.
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